Whatever you do, don't accidentally type www.bearww.com when you're looking for bearwww.com.
Entries with a red x (X) have been marked private, friends only, or deleted subsequently, but they were public at one time.
2005 Prelude to a Furor
4/20: http://ranger1.livejournal.com/512603.html
7/2: http://tonydabear.livejournal.com/36264.html
7/2: http://citizenpep.livejournal.com/168549.html
7/5: http://tonydabear.livejournal.com/38184.html
12/3: http://greatbearmd.livejournal.com/102197.html
12/5: (even back a year ago people were trying to get improvements) http://theoctothorpe.livejournal.com/31005.html
2006:
5/4: (Endless complaints about shitty coding) http://fuzzygruf.livejournal.com/514694.html
6/4: http://www.insidebear.com/News/article/sid=179.html
8/16: (Tsk tsk, looks like the place is a den of thieves) http://www.expressgaynews.com/2006/9-16/news/localnews/robbed.cfm
8/26: (Mocking the guestbook 'feature') http://joe-bearnickel.livejournal.com/36301.html
10/9: -- http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/405950.html
12/23: -- (I officially ban bear411 but nobody listens) http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/422927.html
2007
1/17: http://bear411bites.livejournal.com/
1/26: http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/99172.html
1/26: http://phoenixcub.livejournal.com/273539.html
1/29: http://mdmcquaig.livejournal.com/175259.html
1/29: http://mrpandabehr.livejournal.com/79504.html
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1/31: (The post everyone pays attention to) http://bobaloo.livejournal.com/525205.html
1/31: http://thickslab.com/blog/post/2007/01/31/bear411-sucks
1/31: (Detailing the Bearcelona/Bear411 spat) http://gorkabear.livejournal.com/129232.html
1/31: (Claim of barratry by Bearciti owner) http://excalibear.livejournal.com/359315.html X
1/31: http://www.kinetwork.com/ftp/pub/blogger.html
1/31: (Compaint about censorship) http://reslbear.livejournal.com/26731.html
1/31: (Copy of Bobaloo's post) http://excalibear.livejournal.com/358030.html
1/31: http://excalibear.livejournal.com/358368.html
1/31: (Visual acuity test) http://excalibear.livejournal.com/359043.html
1/31: http://revhyperion.livejournal.com/355819.html
1/31: (Mocking bear profiles) http://trapezebear.livejournal.com/389810.html
1/31: (Feature based complaint) http://profundis.livejournal.com/583910.html
1/31: http://dhbearguy.livejournal.com/250427.html
1/31: http://invisiblebear.livejournal.com/1015122.html
1/31: http://clauditorium.livejournal.com/353878.html
2/1: http://gorkabear.livejournal.com/129622.html
2/1: (Getting by Bear411 filtering to leave) http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/100994.html
2/1: http://bearinslc.livejournal.com/38535.html
2/1: (Also confirms some about filtering) http://brunorepublic.livejournal.com/269939.html
2/1: (ambivalent mention of bear411 ranting) http://trapezebear.livejournal.com/390543.html
2/1: (Funny poetry) http://boyshapedbox.livejournal.com/116781.html
2/1: http://bearzilla.livejournal.com/86672.html
2/1: http://greatbearmd.livejournal.com/153159.html
2/1: http://brchase.livejournal.com/134447.html
2/1: http://sturm1982.livejournal.com/8295.html
2/1: http://snowboardjoe.livejournal.com/79639.html
2/1: http://joeatlarge.livejournal.com/209136.html
2/1: http://slackcub.livejournal.com/107602.html
2/1: http://bfirrera.livejournal.com/253221.html
2/1: http://nakednsf.livejournal.com/169910.html
2/2: friends-only post about changing because of
2/2: http://mrpandabehr.livejournal.com/80295.html
2/2: http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/101228.html
2/2: (Created bearciti account) http://booddhabear.livejournal.com/41361.html
2/2: http://that-dang-otter.livejournal.com/439713.html
2/2: http://danthered.livejournal.com/454842.html
2/2: (Can't tell whether this is a "Leaving bear411" or just joining bearciti post) http://clifton-akil.livejournal.com/117232.html
2/2: http://bigrock.livejournal.com/302013.html
2/2: http://dmlaenker.livejournal.com/414209.html
2/2: http://kingfuraday.livejournal.com/237015.html
2/2: http://cubmike74.livejournal.com/74760.html
2/3: http://ranger1.livejournal.com/758773.html
2/3: http://colicub.livejournal.com/181322.html
2/3: http://greasybiker.livejournal.com/348635.html
2/3: http://www.furr.org/message.html
2/3: (working on how to obfuscate URL to get by bear411 filters) http://greasybiker.livejournal.com/348286.html
2/3: (Bear411 filter workarounds) http://danthered.livejournal.com/455225.html
2/3: http://cubziz.livejournal.com/278648.html
2/3: http://qxbear.livejournal.com/722374.html
2/4: (Spam Bearciti Fee email) http://nightfallcub.livejournal.com/538190.html
2/4: (Deleted profile) http://bearinslc.livejournal.com/40403.html
2/4: (Mention of increase in bearciti profiles) http://bentclay.livejournal.com/164700.html
2/4: (Spam Bearciti Fee email) http://technocowboy.livejournal.com/582626.html
2/4: (Spam Bearciti Fee email) http://thickslab.com/blog/post/2007/02/04/bear-411-continued
2/4: (Spam Bearciti Fee email) http://excalibear.livejournal.com/361299.html
2/4: (Spam Bearciti Fee email) http://blithwulf.livejournal.com/182101.html
2/4: http://detailbear.livejournal.com/221893.html
2/4: http://kjvbear.livejournal.com/537039.html
2/4: http://kevynjacobs.livejournal.com/46093.html
2/4: http://bearland.livejournal.com/173527.html
2/4: http://jcruisedirector.livejournal.com/19503.html
2/5: http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/102312.html
2/5: (Humorous art) http://profkampf.livejournal.com/214583.html
2/5: (Spam Bearciti Fee email) http://jliv.livejournal.com/144363.html
2/5: http://citizenpep.livejournal.com/271267.html
2/5: http://tonydabear.livejournal.com/180073.html
2/5: (Humorous art) http://paganbear.livejournal.com/778665.html
2/5: (Bearlix responds to market pressure) http://psifire.livejournal.com/76740.html
2/5: -- http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/437805.html
2/5: http://joeatlarge.livejournal.com/210169.html
2/5: http://michaelnolan.livejournal.com/942518.html
2/6: http://braddumm.livejournal.com/17659.html
2/6: (Mention of Greg's Bloviation) http://kingfuraday.livejournal.com/238951.html
2/6: (New features!) http://greasybiker.livejournal.com/349776.html
2/6: (Mention of exodus) http://ciddyguy.livejournal.com/987605.html
2/6: http://jliv.livejournal.com/144606.html
2/6: (New features!) http://bonehound.livejournal.com/662874.html
2/6: http://paganbear.livejournal.com/780331.html
2/6: http://community.livejournal.com/badbearprofiles/120226.html
2/6: -- http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/438752.html
2/6: http://booboobob.livejournal.com/408117.html
2/6: http://thickslab.com/blog/post/2007/02/06/bear-411-again
2/6: http://cub-steiger.livejournal.com/5672.html
2/6: http://constructivecynicism.com/2007/02/06/twisted-knickers/
2/6: http://qualitykill.livejournal.com/141810.html
2/6: http://bonehound.livejournal.com/662874.html
2/6: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vancubz/message/4152
2/6: http://dj-airick.livejournal.com/115269.html
2/7: http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2007/02/animal-farm.html
2/7: http://www.littleyellowdifferent.com/running-with-the-bears/
2/7: http://greasybiker.livejournal.com/351505.html
2/7: http://jawnbc.livejournal.com/385493.html
2/7: http://excalibear.livejournal.com/364119.html
2/7: http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/439032.html
2/7: http://witchcub.livejournal.com/56115.html
2/7: http://funkybearmartin.livejournal.com/168849.html
2/7: http://riversaredamp.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/i-want-to-run-with-the-grizzlies/
2/7: http://www.postmodernbarney.com/2007/02/more-gay-drama.html
2/8: http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/103389.html
2/8: (Ambivalent, but moving to bearciti anyway) http://moved.livejournal.com/590417.html
2/8: http://callingzero.livejournal.com/391021.html
2/8: http://darker77.livejournal.com/53104.html
2/8: http://polomex.livejournal.com/305204.html
2/8: http://fleshbot.com/sex/gay/when-bears-attack-235253.php
2/8: http://furrbear.livejournal.com/288774.html
2/8: -- (The call for this post) http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/439369.html
2/8: http://timbearcub.livejournal.com/112246.html
2/9: ("Defending" bear411) http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/103958.html
2/9: (Ambivalent, but creating bearciti profile) http://nlotic.livejournal.com/154934.html
2/9: http://nasty-mahoney.livejournal.com/77180.html
2/9: http://danthered.livejournal.com/457714.html
2/9: http://brchase.livejournal.com/136233.html
2/9: (Upcoming article) http://zombietruckstop.livejournal.com/114704.html
2/9: http://paganbear.livejournal.com/783115.html
2/9: -- http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/439575.html
2/9: http://thickslab.com/blog/post/2007/02/09/since-greg-wishes-bear411-to-be-commercial-free
2/9: http://sgth0wie.blogspot.com/2007/02/site-for-discriminating-gentleman_09.html
2/9: http://excalibear.livejournal.com/365969.html
2/9: http://dj-airick.livejournal.com/117607.html
2/10: -- http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/440409.html
2/10: http://www.trochaeus.com/blogs/interea/2007/02/bear_911.html
2/11: (Mocking the engrish) http://darker77.livejournal.com/53301.html
2/11: http://liquid-wayno.livejournal.com/82958.html
2/11: (Referencing this post) http://paganbear.livejournal.com/785558.html
2/11: http://reslbear.livejournal.com/29324.html
2/11: http://www.planetbears.com/search.aspx?startdate=2/11/2007&enddate=2/12/2007#327 (scroll down if anchor doesn't work)
2/12: (Referencing this post) http://thickslab.com/blog/post/2007/02/12/anti-bear411-links
2/12: http://dmlaenker.livejournal.com/417190.html
2/12: http://profundis.livejournal.com/590681.html
2/12: http://analog-guy.livejournal.com/122723.html
2/12: (References this post) http://sgth0wie.blogspot.com/2007/02/bear411-discrimination-update.html
2/12: (Mention of bear411 furor) http://peterpandanyc.livejournal.com/127111.html
2/13: http://gryphons-hole.livejournal.com/204591.html
2/13: (More buddybear shenanigans) http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/442619.html
2/13: http://homolicious.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/todays-thoughts/
2/13: http://sgth0wie.blogspot.com/2007/02/bear411-censorship-confirmed.html
Dump Day 1:
2/14: (A rather definitive final period on the discussion) http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/106483.html
2/14: http://mathan.livejournal.com/1141936.html
2/14: http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/443073.html
2/14: http://thickslab.com/blog/post/2007/02/14/what-would-you-do
2/14: http://paganbear.livejournal.com/788421.html
2/14: (BOBALOO CRISIS!) http://bobaloo.livejournal.com/529919.html
2/14: http://citizenpep.livejournal.com/275837.html
2/14: http://heypyro.livejournal.com/291346.html
2/14: http://mrpandabehr.livejournal.com/84111.html
2/14: (More from non-LJ voices) http://suddensunnysmile.blogspot.com/2007/02/bear411-bitchfest.html
2/14: http://detcarguy.livejournal.com/24724.html
2/14: http://paganbear.livejournal.com/788771.html
2/14: http://bonehound.livejournal.com/669634.html
2/14: http://jliv.livejournal.com/145980.html
2/14: http://trapezebear.livejournal.com/395821.html
2/14: http://excalibear.livejournal.com/371154.html
2/14: http://cultgigolo.livejournal.com/4152.html
2/14: http://kingfuraday.livejournal.com/241960.html
2/14: http://maverick1303.livejournal.com/93393.html
2/14: http://crimsonsaint.livejournal.com/23814.html
2/14: http://pulsecub.livejournal.com/90837.html
2/14: http://pulsecub.livejournal.com/91067.html
2/15: http://paganbear.livejournal.com/790105.html
2/15: http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/106600.html
2/15: http://lifesakrooz.blogspot.com/2007/02/and-in-this-corner.html
2/15: http://sf-luke.livejournal.com/313397.html
2/15: http://dhbearguy.livejournal.com/252763.html
2/17: http://mathan.livejournal.com/1143079.html
2/17: http://33mhz.livejournal.com/775329.html
2/20: (More shitty coding, big messy bug) http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/444370.html
2/22: http://ramsjb.livejournal.com/175861.html
The impact of this particular bug starts to sink in. And believe me, there are worse ones just under the surface.
2/24: http://danthered.livejournal.com/463124.html
2/24: (Now a friends-only post) http://cdn-cub.livejournal.com/336471.html X
2/24: http://redbackfur.livejournal.com/172901.html
2/24: http://dividedby42.livejournal.com/6861.html
2/24: http://dividedby42.livejournal.com/6917.html
2/24: http://dhbearguy.livejournal.com/254697.html
2/24: http://greasybiker.livejournal.com/357724.html
2/24: http://sfmini.livejournal.com/112307.html
2/24: http://dhpbear.livejournal.com/56089.html
2/25: http://tonydabear.livejournal.com/184480.html
2/25: http://bigbear4xl.livejournal.com/465548.html
2/25: http://blithwulf.livejournal.com/182674.html
2/25: http://callingzero.livejournal.com/394789.html
2/25: http://pauliebearsf.livejournal.com/168721.html
2/25: http://pauliebearsf.livejournal.com/169168.html
2/25: http://dhpbear.livejournal.com/56524.html
2/26: http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/446886.html
2/26: http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/109285.html
2/26: http://citizenpep.livejournal.com/280473.html
2/26: http://profundis.livejournal.com/594862.html
2/26: http://bugbearcub.livejournal.com/20371.html
2/27: http://dj-airick.livejournal.com/125788.html
3/6: (buddybear's barratry begins) http://kingfuraday.livejournal.com/248718.html
3/6: http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/111993.html
3/7: http://paganbear.livejournal.com/814183.html
3/7: http://profundis.livejournal.com/598186.html
3/7: (A Bear Named SUE!) http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/449483.html
3/7: http://dj-airick.livejournal.com/127731.html
3/7: http://bobaloo.livejournal.com/533484.html
3/8: http://bigredpaul.livejournal.com/757295.html
3/9: (More interesting back-and-forth with BearNamedSue) http://bigredpaul.livejournal.com/758145.html
3/26: (Shenanigans at TBRU) http://cubziz.livejournal.com/285110.html
4/11: Happy Dump day #2!
4/11: (A raging letter from someone who's normally calm surfaces) http://www.castrobear.com/LazyBearWeekend/2007/Message2007.html
4/11: http://paganbear.livejournal.com/852905.html
4/11: http://kingfuraday.livejournal.com/259846.html
4/11: http://flummoxedlummox.livejournal.com/79956.html
4/11: http://whiskerfish.livejournal.com/331194.html
4/11: http://sluggobear.livejournal.com/123085.html
4/11: http://sultmhoor.livejournal.com/460924.html
4/11: http://mtlscream.livejournal.com/6946.html
Back just in time for pride month!
6/1: http://www.bearzone.com/blog/2007/06/01/is-bear411-racist-maybe-worse-part-3/
6/2: http://prisoncitybear.livejournal.com/3119.html
6/2: http://community.livejournal.com/chubsnchasers/710324.html
8/6: Not a fucking thing has changed! http://bigwolfbebad.livejournal.com/85358.html
2009 New Stuff!
4/10: http://weebax.livejournal.com/205473.html
4/11: http://mrpandabehr.livejournal.com/195194.html
Over half the links on my list are friends-only posts. These are only the public ones. Send me your links!
...: http://www.airurso.com/bear411/
Some greasemonkey scripts for bear411 (I'd actually done one like the allow paste one, but his is nicer): http://www.realaustinman.com/misc/bear411.html
My own SeeTheBear bookmarklet: http://www.onlinebryant.com/seebear-bookmarklet.html (
http://www.flickr.com/photos/theretrogigolo/390622883/
18 comments:
I have been rejected 3 times
You cannot email the administrator...It is pure discrimination.....Can't we tell
some one who cares? People are
paying good money....It is a business....They should account
and give reasons for rejecting us!
We should have the site closed
down....Discrimination is a serious
offense....We have many who can prove that..... www.bearfront.com/98190
Im totally agree with that...
I even posted more info about Bear411 and also their activities their doing in Montreal call Sugarbearweekend...
You can find it all on my website www.mtlscream2.net
or the direct link
http://www.mtlscream2.net/Mtlscream2/Blog/Entrées/2008/2/27_Bear411_and_Sugarbear_weekend%3A_The_Truth.html
Have been rejected a number of times. Thought I'd try again recently to see if anything's changed, but obviously it hasn't. Funny thing is, my partner (a bear who looks like one) and I had a profile up on that site, and there were no problems whatsoever, but when I tried to create a profile of my own, I got immediately rejected.
Interesting info,,,I totally agree the way BEAR411 website is run by an ASSHOLE! I have DELETED my profile at least 5 times and all my photos as well. He keeps reposting the images with whatever info he can capture. It's like I have NO CONTROL over my own content or EVEN if I choose to be on the site at all!
I updated my profile this morning around 8:30 a.m. and by this afternoon (around 4:00 p.m.) my profile was removed. This Greg guy is a jerk. It's OK...perhaps it was time to move on anyway. I never really met any nice guys on there anyway.
I couldn't agree more with the comments posted here. Even WITH a face pic, my profile was rejected without a reason. I suspect it was because I didn't look bear enough. He probably also didn't like the fact that I wasn't looking for other bear types. I can't find any decent sites for older for younger...especially for South Carolina.
What would really help is if 3 or 4 of the biggest other bear sites worked together and came up with a "one login across all the sites" feature, which would immediately give them a bigger combined membership than bear411 has. Then we'd have some meaningful competition in the bear personals market.
But I think what will happen is that people will just keep complaining and not really do anything. I'm posting this anonymously because I fully expect bear411 to continue to be where groups in my area promote their events, which will drive more guys in my area to bear411. It's a sad cycle that I'd like to see broken, but as of now, it's not.
To the poster whose pictures are still in use on bear411.com without permission: as the site's owner likes to send legal notices, you should do the same to him regarding your copyrighted personal pictures. It seems to be the only thing he understands, though since his site still contains no terms of service or user agreement, maybe he doesn't even understand that.
I just tried to join and i got rejected. I'm guessing because im not bear enough. Freaking elitist jerks.
Yes, I had someone who IS a member their try to contact me. So twice I was rejected for no reason.
So I changed My pic " to be changed later" borrowed a description. and sent in 2 more with Different profiles. Should find out sometime 6-7-09 if either of those make the cut. the guy tying to reach me was kind hot and would like to meet him.
and here I THOUGHT GAY.COM was bad about Censorship. What is this CHINA ?
I cannot even find a place to delete my profile on B411. I emailed Greg (BuddyBear)-Webmaster and Owner. I hope he deletes it.
I have tried to join several times. This last time finally got a email back saying that I was rejected. Was told to go to daddy.com they will take anyone. What a jerk. This guy needs to be brought down.
I opened my account about 2 weeks ago. I've only chatted with what 3 freinds and this fucking ASSHOLE then deletes my account. I go to sign on today and its gone. What TF did i do?
I had ONE picture up and 4 buddies, i'm an average bear, bearded..... so I fit the profile.
The man needs serious fucking help.
Is there a way for people to file legally against this man? If so, I'm in.
I have tried to post a picture, but it keeps getting rejected. I have the same pic on a couple of other sites. Guess he doesn't like it. I sent a message asking why, but he never replied to it, as usual.
After having experienced a COMPLETE ABSENCE of customer service on bear411 and having discovered the bear411sucks.com web site and all its associated links, I felt compelled to add my voice here, however little a drop in the bucket it is to the torrents of complaints about this horrid site there is already.
If you have not yet joined bear411, DON'T. There are lots of well written and much better and customer oriented bear web sites around. bear411 isn't remotely being close to one of those. bear411 guarantees you nothing, regardless of whether you are on a paid or free membership. The ONLY thing that you are GUARANTEED is ZERO CUSTOMER SERVICE if you have ANY problems whatsoever. The support from bear411 is a predictable and singular - SILENCE. The owner and only "employee" that runs it, will uniformily ignore any requests for tech support you might forward him, that is, if you can FIND an e-mail address to forward to in the first place, because that has been made conveniently absent from anywhere on the site to prevent legitmate users of the site contact the site owner and operator.
bear411 has a complete lack of user agreement or site policies on the site. The operator of bear411 has ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY towards its users with respect to customer service and privacy, two parameters of importance in this day and age of privacy and security concerns. The owner / operator claims he is a software engineer, but it's pretty obvious he is a poor excuse for one because not only is the site extremely poorly written, looks amateur and unprofessional, and functions similarly, but the bear411 web site has more holes than a piece of swiss cheese.
If your profile is on bear411, be prepared that any and all information including images you submit to the site, and ANY AND ALL private message content will be read and archived by the operator, and can be used against you by the operator for his own gain and (selfish / profitable) agenda while compromising your rights and privacy as a user. Integrity is a word that isn't in this site operator's vocabulary. Milking your wallet, is his primary goal while providing non-existent customer service and zero respect to its users, whether they are paid or not.
What is most disturbing is the discrimatory, racist and dictatorial behaviour of this business, including modifying your profiles and dictating what you can call or categorize yourself as, based on the site's available choices, or deleting your account / profile completely without notice or explanation, even when asked. There are even reports of those who tried to delete their profile only to have it resurrected and reposted by the operator. Make no mistake - anything you do on bear411 is monitor and approved by the operator.
When the struggles of what the gay and bear communities have had to endure are considered, this type of person who is running bear411 milking people's wallets in this manner is nothing short of pure MALAISE in the gay cyber community. Stop supporting this type of cyber manipulation coming from a gay man no less, and stay away from bear411. Send your friends to the bear411sucks.com URL and let them see for themselves what the skeletons are in the closet.
If you choose to join another bear or gay related site, check up on the domain name to see if it is registered to the same owner as bear411. This operator owns at least another 75 domain names and you may be unknowingly lining his wallet with cash again. Use the WHOIS search function at the URL below to check a domain name's ownership before you become their customer, even if you do not pay for your use of it. This example below shows the bear411 domain's registered owner's name in the administrative contact section:
http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/bear411.com
My friend had made a profile on bear411.com and said he was have lots of success meeting guys in his area and that the website was very popular. He is 20 I am 19. So I go to make a profile on bear411 and never get a response, I type in my profile address and see that it is still being surveyed. It's been about 3 days with no response and I check my profile page again to see if it's been activated only to find that it has been deleted. No reason as to why. I don't get it, I'm heavy-set, hairy, bearded, gay of course, and like bearish guys. WTF is with this moderator. I've been told by several other people he has some major instability issues and then I find this website. The thing of it is my friend who got an account on there did so with ease and he's got pretty much the same stats as me.
It seems as though the SeeTheBear script is outdated.
Is there any update coming?
Nah, I won't be updating the SeeThisBear bookmarklet. I'm disinclined to help make his site any more bearable. Pun intended.
I sent a message to a friend on there asking if he has Facebook and he never got the message. Looks like if you mention any other social networking site the message gets censored. I am close to deleting this shit.
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